4AGE 20V: Tomei Poncam vs. Kelford Cam

[MoonGT]

Will there be any performance difference/advanyage between Tomei PonCams 4AG 5VALVE Camshaft IN 264 Duration - 9.00mm Lift / EX 256 Duration - 9.00mm Lift and Kelford Camtech 194-A Camshaft IN & EX 264 Duration, 8.20 & 8.15mm Lift.

My plan is to replace the stock cams only. Therefore prior moving on I want to get a firm feeling on the replacement from the experts.

[KonaTrueno723]

I've got a set of these tomei cams, but I'm curious as well

[Army Fork]

Just buy the Tomei's, it's proven that they add about 14-15 hp out of the box. the Kelford's haven't been tested, but with a shorter lift they'll be more restrictive at higher RPM's

[KonaTrueno723]

I saw the dyno specs for the tomei 5 valve & it makes good power up to 7500, also stating "excellent turbo response"..
Kelford has more cam selections for 20v's, but no dyno charts to compare

[Yosuke]

http://www.importtuner.com/tech/impp_1207_tomei_powered_poncams/viewall.html

[yoshimitsuspeed]

I just got these up on my site a few days ago. If you can find them cheaper let me know.
http://matrixgarage.com/products/tomei- ... int-256-ex

[Army Fork]

Damn, $580? That is a damn good price. Even eBay can only do about $645

[ga_goosh]

wrong info sorry for any confusion

[Army Fork]

Apparently the Tomei's work with the stock springs just fine

[yoshimitsuspeed]

Damn, $580? That is a damn good price. Even eBay can only do about $645

Since my store is just starting out I decided to start as low as possible and then up my prices as needed to survive. Right now I would rather be making sales with a small profit margin than making no sales with a large profit margin. If my prices go up it's because they need to, not because I am getting greedy.
I have been comparing my prices to other online vendors and ebay to try and price competitively. This was one of the few I actually found better prices from vendors outside ebay. On these I am still under any other prices I could find.

[yoshimitsuspeed]

you will want to get valve springs since the highest lift the stockers can handle is apparently 8.1mm of lift to prevent valve float

Are you sure you are talking about the 20Vs? The BT has 8.2mm on the intake stock.

Of course it is also entirely dependent on how fast you spin the motor.

[ga_goosh]

you will want to get valve springs since the highest lift the stockers can handle is apparently 8.1mm of lift to prevent valve float

Are you sure you are talking about the 20Vs? The BT has 8.2mm on the intake stock.

Of course it is also entirely dependent on how fast you spin the motor.

ahh your right i completely looked past the 20v ....oops yes i was refering to the 16v my bad please disreguard

[Army Fork]

That's actually a good point I should have made, the compression length of your spring should have no effect on valve float as long as the spring size is correct overall. Instead it's the spring rate that determines the valves top RPM.

[MoonGT]

http://www.importtuner.com/tech/impp_1207_tomei_powered_poncams/viewall.html

Thanks for sharing. It was very informative.