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bad gauge cluster possibly?

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:04 pm
by daveskatesallday
so my car isn't running at the moment but when it was i noticed at a point the tach stopped working, fuel gauge, water temp gauge all stopped working. The only thing that did work was the speedo and not accurately either, is it possible my gauge cluster itself is just bad? all the fuses and everything are good and i'm stumped

Re: bad gauge cluster possibly?

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:48 am
by totta crolla
Does 'everything' include any Earthing points ?
You could try gently 'wiggling' the connector(s) with the ignition on to see if anything happens to the gauges, I think that the fuel gauge may even work without the ignition.
The speedometer will continue to work as it is mechanically driven.

Re: bad gauge cluster possibly?

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:22 pm
by jondee86
daveskatesallday wrote:... all the fuses and everything are good...

Have you checked the 7.5A GAUGE fuse in the #1 junction box located
in the driver's side kick panel ?

Cheers... jondee86

Re: bad gauge cluster possibly?

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:14 pm
by allencr
No.
Is the board fried & ugly looking & smell burnt, otherwise it's individual bits & pieces?

Re: bad gauge cluster possibly?

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:29 pm
by daveskatesallday
jondee86 wrote:
daveskatesallday wrote:... all the fuses and everything are good...

Have you checked the 7.5A GAUGE fuse in the #1 junction box located
in the driver's side kick panel ?

Cheers... jondee86


i can check it again just to be sure, does that fuse power everything to the gauge cluster i'm assuming?

Re: bad gauge cluster possibly?

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:30 pm
by daveskatesallday
allencr wrote:No.
Is the board fried & ugly looking & smell burnt, otherwise it's individual bits & pieces?


no it's not fried and doesn't smell at all

Re: bad gauge cluster possibly?

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:16 am
by jondee86
daveskatesallday wrote:... just to be sure, does that fuse power everything to the gauge cluster ?

Yes... the GAUGE fuse powers the function all the gauges, but the
illumination of the gauges is powered from a different fuse.

Cheers... jondee86

Re: bad gauge cluster possibly?

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:56 pm
by daveskatesallday
jondee86 wrote:
daveskatesallday wrote:... just to be sure, does that fuse power everything to the gauge cluster ?

Yes... the GAUGE fuse powers the function all the gauges, but the
illumination of the gauges is powered from a different fuse.

Cheers... jondee86


ok i checked it the fuse wasn't blown but i changed it anyway still nothing, any other suggestions?

Re: bad gauge cluster possibly?

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:06 pm
by jondee86
If you have 12V at the GAUGE fuse, then you should have 12V at the...
- Oil Pressure Gauge
- Fuel Level Gauge
- Low Fuel Light
- Water Temp Gauge
- Tacho
- Brake Warning Light

If none of these work when the key is ON, then maybe you don't have
12V at the fuse ? Power to the GAUGE fuse comes from the ignution switch
via a blk/yel wire. But this wire also powers up a bunch of other stuff
(indicators, wipers and washers), so if these are working... ???

Cheers... jondee86

Re: bad gauge cluster possibly?

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:42 pm
by daveskatesallday
jondee86 wrote:If you have 12V at the GAUGE fuse, then you should have 12V at the...
- Oil Pressure Gauge
- Fuel Level Gauge
- Low Fuel Light
- Water Temp Gauge
- Tacho
- Brake Warning Light

If none of these work when the key is ON, then maybe you don't have
12V at the fuse ? Power to the GAUGE fuse comes from the ignution switch
via a blk/yel wire. But this wire also powers up a bunch of other stuff
(indicators, wipers and washers), so if these are working... ???

Cheers... jondee86


brake warning light as in the E brake? (that works)
my wipers work also

Re: bad gauge cluster possibly?

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:38 am
by jondee86
In that case, it looks as so you have power to the dash, so the
only possibility I can think of is that the multipin plugs that connect
the under dash harness to the cluster have fallen off.

Cheers... jondee86

Re: bad gauge cluster possibly?

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:40 pm
by daveskatesallday
jondee86 wrote:In that case, it looks as so you have power to the dash, so the
only possibility I can think of is that the multipin plugs that connect
the under dash harness to the cluster have fallen off.

Cheers... jondee86


this isn't mine but i'm using it as a reference picture but are you referring to these connectors here? when i was previously trying to diagnose the issue i did check these connectors to make sure they were pushed into the gauge cluster snug enough they weren't loose but it wouldn't hurt again, i suppose i could test each pin with a test light and the ignition on to see if each one is getting power? (i'm assuming each pin has power going to it, i could be wrong though)

Image

Re: bad gauge cluster possibly?

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 10:23 pm
by jondee86
You can work out which pins should have power from this....

Image

Cheers... jondee86

Re: bad gauge cluster possibly?

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:36 am
by daveskatesallday
wow thanks man that picture helps tons, i'll definitely be wrenching on the car tomorrow so i'll definitely see what is and isn't getting power and this should let me know where i need to start looking