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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby Mo559lo » Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:45 pm

Can u post some pix of the whole air filter area I need to see for smog thank u

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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby yoshimitsuspeed » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:53 pm

LongGrain wrote:I disagree with pretty much everyone in here. Do with the car what YOU want. If you want a car to build up and go have a blast out on the track, a clean, stock car like the one you have is the BEST starting point you could ask for. If I were you, I would not hesitate to build that car into something awesome.

Maybe i'm not old enough to see the appeal in having a car like that, and wasting time restoring a stock car to stock, and having zero fun. Terms like Restoration and Resale value are for people who are too old to have any fun, and just want to remember the "good ole days"

I cant wrap my head around the idea of a car being "too clean" or "too original" to build/track. Personally, i would never consider building/tracking a car that wasnt clean and original to start with.


For the most part I agree with you. Cars should be enjoyed and driven and anything that makes them more enjoyable or drivable should be a good thing.
In my book there are exceptions though.
There are also to different reasons that often but not always walk hand in hand.
The more rare something gets the more valuable it will become. I doubt our AW11's, AE86s and such will ever hit a comparable status to say a 1932 Studebaker President but I also doubt anyone thought that about their car in the 30s.
Even if the value doesn't increase at a financially profitable rate there is still something to be said about having an all stock original car and that value increases as it get's harder to find a car in that condition.
If you came across a chopped and channeled 32 president it would probably only be worth a few grand to maybe a couple tens of thousands if it was pretty sweet. The same car with low miles and all original would be worth a stupid amount of money as well as emotional and sentimental value to someone.
In 20 years finding a Cherry AE86 will be pretty tough especially with it's recent revival. If he turns this car into a race car in 20 years it will be a haggard old race car worth little more than it's weight in scrap metal.

I respect both paths but the more rare and hard to find in good condition a car becomes the more I lean toward keeping it stock or at least in a form that will keep it out of harms way and easy to take back to original if that's what you decided to do.

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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby ae86714 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:17 pm

I think you're doing the right thing. I dont understand how someone cant understand why you wouldn't build something nice into a race/ track car. "wow its perfect!... well lets gut it and rip on it as hard as we can on a race track til it breaks." lol its nice, nothing wrong with wanting it to stay nice. there is enjoyment in that i think. not to mention there are plenty of other 86's out there that are in much worse shape...

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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby Apex-Wolf » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:20 pm

WOW Amazing find congratulations

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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby lddeckert » Fri Dec 13, 2013 9:53 am

mo559l0, sorry, i didnt get a pic of that before i pulled engine. I do have it on video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVJPwhYG ... e=youtu.be at 23 secs. thanks AE86, apex ;) i'll get more video when i get the engine back in. http://www.flickr.com/photos/30888016@N06/11355809593/

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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby poorutron » Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:25 am

-zenki- wrote:I would restore it a bit and do some small tastefull mods. That way if you ever want to sell it you can easily turn it back to stock form. No point in making it a garagequeen, cars are meant to be driven.


same thoughts, its cool some guys wanna keep their 86's clean and stuff but having a collector car is just gonna collect dust, if you wanted car bragging rights should've gone good ol MURICA MUSCLE or at least Der German. Ultimately what you decide is up to you! always fun to see an 86 build and direct etc but I will say one cant help but want to actually drive the car, unless they can't drive at all and just showroom like a studio gangster :lol: j/k

overall It's your kitchen, your ingredients, you can ask for help but don't ever let another chef (minus God :D) tell ya how to cook your meal.

heck it'd look nice on lowering springs and some rims either way lookin forward to your progress! :D

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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby Ghost85 » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:48 pm

You've got a great shot at having something that few here can ever attest to. With that said do what you wish with it, but understand that what you have can be over appreciated past its actually functionality. Drive it, maintain/wrench on it, enjoy it. Cars have four wheels that want to move. We don't own large scale model kits here.

*EDIT* Just saw the date of the last post. Which way you headed on this one?
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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby lddeckert » Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:27 am

engine is back in, had to replace fuel pump and heater core, broke it taking out the engine :( should be done next weekend. pictures to follow. I'm thinking just some nice wheels n tires, see how it goes :)

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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby Patman » Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:20 am

Good find, but I would swap or upgrade engine because we're in 2014 can't live with stock low hp. Easily swap original engine back in if decide to sell.

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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby lddeckert » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:40 am

I have been thinking about a swap after getting this one out, wasnt to bad and a first try for me. This is probably all over the boards, havent really looked yet, but what is the biggest engine that will fit without mod's to engine mounts? and without spending a fortune..


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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby lddeckert » Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:47 pm

We'll, she started and Ran,,,,, for a minute or two, now i gots no spark ;(

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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby Streetdriven » Wed Mar 12, 2014 2:42 pm

Beautiful car sir great find

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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby lddeckert » Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:13 am

Ok, engine is back up and running, igniter went bad. Running great. Working on the cleanup, needs a good buff and polish. more pics coming soon. And again, thanks for all the feedback gents,

larry

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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby AE86_DRIFTER_ » Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:04 pm

that car came from wa? where from if u dont mind me asking?
Its all fun and games when on the straight aways... but once you get to twist and turns the laughter turns to tears

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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby previadrifter » Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:01 am

AE86_DRIFTER_ wrote:that car came from wa? where from if u dont mind me asking?

Look back a page.

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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby AE86_DRIFTER_ » Sat Apr 05, 2014 4:27 pm

i live in spokane i just bought a sr5 hatch wish i found that one lol
Its all fun and games when on the straight aways... but once you get to twist and turns the laughter turns to tears

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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby MellowS13 » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:55 pm

I'd say restore it to factory spec. not many stock 86s left in the world.

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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby AE86 Apprentice » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:59 am

yoshimitsuspeed wrote:
LongGrain wrote:I disagree with pretty much everyone in here. Do with the car what YOU want. If you want a car to build up and go have a blast out on the track, a clean, stock car like the one you have is the BEST starting point you could ask for. If I were you, I would not hesitate to build that car into something awesome.

Maybe i'm not old enough to see the appeal in having a car like that, and wasting time restoring a stock car to stock, and having zero fun. Terms like Restoration and Resale value are for people who are too old to have any fun, and just want to remember the "good ole days"

I cant wrap my head around the idea of a car being "too clean" or "too original" to build/track. Personally, i would never consider building/tracking a car that wasnt clean and original to start with.


For the most part I agree with you. Cars should be enjoyed and driven and anything that makes them more enjoyable or drivable should be a good thing.
In my book there are exceptions though.
There are also to different reasons that often but not always walk hand in hand.
The more rare something gets the more valuable it will become. I doubt our AW11's, AE86s and such will ever hit a comparable status to say a 1932 Studebaker President but I also doubt anyone thought that about their car in the 30s.
Even if the value doesn't increase at a financially profitable rate there is still something to be said about having an all stock original car and that value increases as it get's harder to find a car in that condition.
If you came across a chopped and channeled 32 president it would probably only be worth a few grand to maybe a couple tens of thousands if it was pretty sweet. The same car with low miles and all original would be worth a stupid amount of money as well as emotional and sentimental value to someone.
In 20 years finding a Cherry AE86 will be pretty tough especially with it's recent revival. If he turns this car into a race car in 20 years it will be a haggard old race car worth little more than it's weight in scrap metal.

I respect both paths but the more rare and hard to find in good condition a car becomes the more I lean toward keeping it stock or at least in a form that will keep it out of harms way and easy to take back to original if that's what you decided to do.


Yes,I agree! ;)
1985 Corolla GTS coupe.

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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby Yuri » Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:14 pm

I think a lot of us don't think of stock as nice looking because we're too accustomed to relating stock with "beat."
However, stock in nice condition can sometimes be even cooler than modified.
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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby 4acto1uz » Fri May 09, 2014 11:45 pm

Wow that's amazing, keep it stock and do a full restore!

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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby bay_ae86_area » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:07 am

4acto1uz wrote:Wow that's amazing, keep it stock and do a full restore!


This. :D

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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby 8686GTS » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:13 am

Nice pick up!
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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby Bk65 » Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:50 am

I hope one day to have my own barn find. Yours is so clean.

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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby Esenpai » Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:48 am

lddeckert wrote:I have been thinking about a swap after getting this one out, wasnt to bad and a first try for me. This is probably all over the boards, havent really looked yet, but what is the biggest engine that will fit without mod's to engine mounts? and without spending a fortune..


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probably the most bang for your buck is going f20c it'd cost probably around 7k+ maybe less. idk depending on how much you're willing to wait looking for the right price.

but tbh don't ask questions about what to do with it. pretend the world of c4ag or anything doesnt matter. its your car do with it as you please everyone here is so stuck on all these particular ways a car SHOULD be when the only thing that matters is that its your car and no one elses. thats just my 2 cents tho.

good luck with whatever you do! I'm very jealous. :thumbsup:
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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby PHX » Tue Jul 08, 2014 6:34 pm

Beautiful find!

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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby lddeckert » Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:57 pm

Just a few more little things, knobs, put the shift console back on,



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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby lddeckert » Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:11 pm

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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby Grant » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:17 pm

Wow that's looking pretty good now! Are the center console plastics missing or did you just remove them to fix something?

Keep up the good work. :D

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Re: 100% original barn find 85 GTS, upgrade or keep?

Postby idreamofdrifting » Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:35 pm

Yuri wrote:I think a lot of us don't think of stock as nice looking because we're too accustomed to relating stock with "beat."
However, stock in nice condition can sometimes be even cooler than modified.
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