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Blacktop 20v COP issues with OEM ECU?

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:28 pm
by TheOxyMorin
Hi everyone,

I'm converting to COP ignition using either 1ZZ or 1NZ coil packs. I've heard the OEM Blacktop ECU doesn't always work out with this conversion? Can anyone shed some more light from experience with any of these problems? I've seen rev limit at 6,500 with or without load.

Anything would be great, thanks!!!

Re: Blacktop 20v COP stock ECU issues?

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:47 pm
by morgan
I put the 1zz on my friends BT for him. Backfire out the intakes no matter what i did. Swapped my D17 honda coils from my 20v, wired it up quick and his car started. Personally i always have luck with the D17 coils, never the 1zz or 1nz

Re: Blacktop 20v COP stock ECU issues?

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:01 pm
by TheOxyMorin
morgan wrote:I put the 1zz on my friends BT for him. Backfire out the intakes no matter what i did. Swapped my D17 honda coils from my 20v, wired it up quick and his car started. Personally i always have luck with the D17 coils, never the 1zz or 1nz


Thanks Morgan, I ordered a Tweak'd harness... shouldn't be a difficult job to change out connectors and a little solder right? How's his engine run all the way to redline?

Re: Blacktop 20v COP issues with OEM ECU

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:20 pm
by morgan
Better with colder plugs. Pulls nice

Re: Blacktop 20v COP issues with OEM ECU

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:01 am
by MisterJerk
morgan wrote:Better with colder plugs. Pulls nice


Which plugs? BCPR6? or 7? Im not sure what is stock in the 20v.
I know its a BCPR5ES11 for 16v low comp(zenki, blue top, whatthefuckever)

Re: Blacktop 20v COP issues with OEM ECU?

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:57 am
by morgan
i dont recall off hand, ill check later when im home. hope i remember...

Re: Blacktop 20v COP issues with OEM ECU

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:26 pm
by TheOxyMorin
morgan wrote:Better with colder plugs. Pulls nice


That's good to hear, I think I am going to try OEM 1ZZ coils packs first as a test. Then if all else fails I'll switch to the D17 packs. Thanks again Morgan

Re: Blacktop 20v COP issues with OEM ECU?

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:51 pm
by alavelle12
BCPR7ES # 6282 are the 1 step colder plugs i believe

Re: Blacktop 20v COP issues with OEM ECU?

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:54 pm
by morgan
Just got in, you are correct on those plugs^

Re: Blacktop 20v COP issues with OEM ECU?

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:09 pm
by TheOxyMorin
alavelle12 wrote:BCPR7ES # 6282 are the 1 step colder plugs i believe


Good looking out Alavelle, thanks for the post

Re: Blacktop 20v COP issues with OEM ECU?

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 6:25 pm
by speedmaster
COP with stock ecu works just fine?

Re: Blacktop 20v COP issues with OEM ECU?

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 6:36 pm
by TheOxyMorin
speedmaster wrote:COP with stock ecu works just fine?


Sometimes, as far as I can tell so far it's a game of luck.

Re: Blacktop 20v COP issues with OEM ECU?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:45 am
by onnaj
Why do you want COP with a stock ECU anyway, besides that it might look sexy? The stock ignition is pretty decent.

Re: Blacktop 20v COP issues with OEM ECU?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:55 am
by TheOxyMorin
onnaj wrote:Why do you want COP with a stock ECU anyway, besides that it might look sexy? The stock ignition is pretty decent.


Running a COP setup is cleaner, involves less moving parts, and the cam gear cover can be fitted as original for maximum protection of the timing belt. Running COP is nearly the same price as a distributor relocation kit. I am undecided if switching to a standalone at a later date until I am more financially able.

Re: Blacktop 20v COP issues with OEM ECU?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:00 am
by morgan
Plus its going into an ae86 right? Space is an issue with distributor then