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ST swap
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:55 pm
by alltracfreak
Hey guys I'm back again. Some of you know I couldn't make my mind up on what I would be running in my 91 fwd celica but I came across a deal on 20v ST locally that i couldn't pass up. So my plan now is to do a rebuild on the ST that i picked up and swap it in using the blacktop ecu. Now my questions lol. Is their a difference in the ST and BT igniter and coil? Or could I use either or.
Re: ST swap
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:59 pm
by alltracfreak
Looking at the price of the ecus I might be better off with a MS
Re: ST swap
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:37 pm
by alltracfreak
What would be the best route?
Re: ST swap
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:48 pm
by yoshimitsuspeed
Did it not come with an ECU?
Why run the BT ECU? Is open stacks a must or something?
Re: ST swap
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:43 am
by alltracfreak
Cut harness no ecu. I prefer to run map since I can use my existing map and in plan on going turbo.
Re: ST swap
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:08 am
by yoshimitsuspeed
Turbos have no problem with AFM.
That aside in your situation if you are comfortable taking on the wiring and or programming I would probably go with proper engine management. You might have a bit steeper learning curve but in the end much more capability.
Re: ST swap
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:59 am
by morgan
alltracfreak wrote:Is their a difference in the ST and BT igniter and coil? Or could I use either or.
Theyre interchangable
Re: ST swap
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:08 am
by alltracfreak
Des it matter if the ecu is from an automatic.
Re: ST swap
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:16 am
by alltracfreak
And honestly the whole map sensor thing is just preference. And I'm having someone make my harness for me so it will be a simple PNP process with the BT ecu. Is it possible to have a jumper harness with the MS in case i ever for some odd reason I want to go back? And thank you Morgan for that info BT igniter and coil are on their way.
Re: ST swap
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:31 am
by morgan
alltracfreak wrote:Des it matter if the ecu is from an automatic.
No
Re: ST swap
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:13 am
by yoshimitsuspeed
If you want to swap back to the stock ECU you might consider a
DIYPNP N76 (Nippon Denso Style 76 pin)
Re: ST swap
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:57 pm
by alltracfreak
Where would be the best place to get a distributor cap and rotor? EBay wants 130$!!!!
Re: ST swap
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 1:24 pm
by morgan
Torparts.com
Re: ST swap
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:16 pm
by alltracfreak
Does anyone know if the 4age flywheel will fit in my fwd 4afe transmission not sure what the size of the flywheel is for my 4afe.
Re: ST swap
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:16 pm
by alltracfreak
Thanks again morgan
Re: ST swap
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:25 pm
by morgan
Yes it will fit. I believe the 4afe is 212mm so either use a 212 or 200mm flywheel. Make sure the clutch is the matching size.
No prob
Re: ST swap
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:39 pm
by alltracfreak
Ok sweet.
Re: ST swap
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:29 pm
by alltracfreak
Anyone use ralco flywheels?