1986 22RE AE86 coupe aka RE86

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1986 22RE AE86 coupe aka RE86

Postby NIXmx » Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:25 am

Having some fun while pulling the engine. :lol:
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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe

Postby NIXmx » Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:51 am

A "so far" parts list;
B-Tune/Swift 7k rear springs
Some red ebay looking front coilover springs, no adjustable perches
T3 front upper hats, needle bearing ones
Black kouki GTS seats
22RE/W58 from '85 Celica GT (red car in pictures)


Things in the garage that need to go on;
T3 strut tube spacers
55w HID
Autopal H4 headlight housings
Driveshaft (OEM 2 piece)
Shifter (NEEDS bushings)

Needs;
MR2 struts / Camaro shocks
Gas tank
Witing
Plumbing
Radiator (interferes with intake piping) Most likely civic
Manual rack
Witchcraft
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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe

Postby powered_by_toyota » Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:37 am

Interesting. Think this is the first 22re into a 86 ive seen...custom mounts?

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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe

Postby yellowsnow4free » Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:45 am

NIXmx wrote:Image

It's a rare FWD AE86 SR5! :shock:

How do you like the 22RE over the 4AC?

Also, what transmission mount did you use?

Nice build! :mrgreen:

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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe

Postby carbd7age » Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:03 pm

LOL FWD :lol:
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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe

Postby NIXmx » Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:55 pm

yellowsnow4free wrote:How do you like the 22RE over the 4AC?


The car is not running at the time of this post, so I can not say how they compare in the Corolla. However, the Celica it came from was very fun. I have read tons of (no offense) BS threads and posts with people condemning the 22RE to hell. I can't prove it (hypocrite? lol) but they seem like they are arm chair racers. "It's a truck engine / it doesn't rev high / it's heavy / etc" ...whatever. I can PERSONALLY say that that engine is great for drifting, doughnuts, burnouts, passing on the freeway, etc. Take into account this was in a Celica. It's pretty safe to say in the lighter Corolla things will only be better. please don't confuse my words. I'm not saying it's a better engine than the wide variaty of A block engines, everything has it's pros and cons. It comes down to personal preference. My daily is a GS400, so torque is a close friend to me. ;)

yellowsnow4free wrote:Also, what transmission mount did you use?

Automatic AE86 crossmember with W58 rubber mount. Also note the front half of the automatic AE86 driveshaft fits, yet the manual one does not. Don't throw away those automatic parts!

powered_by_toyota wrote:...custom mounts?

Currently? One OE AE86 mount on the passenger side, and two RA64 (Celica) mounts on the driver side. It's a bit off center, so I'll continue to change the setup around until it's perfect.

The main goal was to have a 22RE/W58 installed and mounted in an AE86 for ZERO dollars. Mainly because everyone says it can't be done without custom this and that, and the fact that "it's not worth the time". Good motivation for me. I have not spent one penny on this swap so far. I figure the transitive property (remember high school algebra?) has helped us use other toyota parts in our cars before, why not exploit it to the fullest. Say and think what you want, but most of us are cheap. Swap kits and custom brackets are great and all, but they're not flying off the shelves for a reason.

That being said, I do realize that it's about 96% feasible with factory parts. I'm almost certain that some form of spacer will be needed to make it perfect. Spacer as in, you could use washers. I'm not promoting half-ass, or unsafe work. I just realize that people will ask and try for themselves anyways. On the contrary, when all is said and done, I would like to have five sets of proper spacers made with water jet cut steel or aluminum. Either to keep for future endeavors or to sell them here/eBay.

carbd7age wrote:LOL FWD :lol:

You laugh, I ponder. One day I might just do it. See the SC14 blower too? lol :o That shifter worked great in the wagon by the way, thanks.
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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe

Postby NikNes » Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:37 pm

22RE's are bullet proof, always makes me think of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89AxuhEHc3o

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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe

Postby EJ86 » Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:59 pm

Those wheels look familiar...
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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe

Postby Dr_Sandwich » Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:59 pm

NikNes wrote:22RE's are bullet proof, always makes me think of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89AxuhEHc3o

0.0 wow

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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe

Postby grappletech » Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:19 pm

Ive got an 81 Celica 22R(carb) but its still amazing

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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe

Postby Turtle » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:31 pm

I, too have a 22RE that I want to put in a corolla. 2-valves per cylinder, but I've always been amazed how robust this engine is. definately a back-burner project and the 22RE needs a rebuild, so double back-burner. the ability to easily install a W-58 with stock parts behind the 22RE is also a very tempting proposition.

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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe

Postby NIXmx » Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:56 am

EJ86 wrote:Those wheels look familiar...

I did buy them locally, so I wouldn't doubt it.

Turtle wrote:I, too have a 22RE that I want to put in a corolla. 2-valves per cylinder, but I've always been amazed how robust this engine is. definately a back-burner project and the 22RE needs a rebuild, so double back-burner. the ability to easily install a W-58 with stock parts behind the 22RE is also a very tempting proposition.

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Turtle, you are the reason this car is going to have power windows.
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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe

Postby NIXmx » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:07 am

Today I received my AGX shocks, brembo rotors, and SS brake lines from 88Rotors. I also picked up new wheel bearings, seals, synthetic grease, brake and clutch master cylinders, clutch slave, SS clutch line, brake pads, hardware, and ball joints. Thinking about rebuilding the calipers while I'm at it.
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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe aka RE86

Postby NIXmx » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:26 am

Timing cover, water pump, oil pump, timing chain kit, cam, radiator, and strut bar came in today.
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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe aka RE86

Postby Turtle » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:07 am

New timing cover and chain kit? nice.

how much did those cost with the water & oil pump? metal guides? what brand (ebay special?)? I bet that even the ebay special will last for years and years.

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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe aka RE86

Postby NIXmx » Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:20 am

Turtle wrote:New timing cover and chain kit? nice.

how much did those cost with the water & oil pump? metal guides? what brand (ebay special?)? I bet that even the ebay special will last for years and years.

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I bought the parts from a reputable "22R" shop called EngnBldr, they are up in Oregon. The prices are just as good if not better than "eBay brand" kits, and the quality is better. The timing cover, water pump, oil pump, timing chain kit, and cam came to $311 shipped. I did purchase the HD chain kit, what it really needed. Long story short; the engine is missing the driver side plastic guide. It's also the reason why the Celica was $360. I did however drive the car 40 miles without the tensioner. 22RE, lol.


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This cam was only $117 shipped! http://www.engnbldr.com/ There isn't a fancy shopping cart or anything. It's more or less like buying parts via car forum. Send money, put what you want in the description, sit and wait.
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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe aka RE86

Postby NIXmx » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:12 pm

T3 front spring perch and manual rack bushing came in today. Still waiting for the bushing kit. The strut bar clears with about 3/4" of the intake manifold.
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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe aka RE86

Postby NIXmx » Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:18 pm

Complete Prothane (via T3) came in today. I would have more updates and progress with the car, but I've had the death flu sickness. All these parts and I can't put them on. :/
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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe aka RE86

Postby redroku87 » Mon May 06, 2013 5:55 pm

stupidish question, were you able to pull off the 22RE and the W58 with out cutting or hammering?
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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe aka RE86

Postby NIXmx » Mon May 06, 2013 7:07 pm

The only cutting and/or hammering I had to do was the power steering nipples on the rack. I'm sure if I took my time I could have cleared it, but I was in a rush that night. You can source different shifters to clear the hole in the trans tunnel. Everything so far has been done with hand tools and will power. No custom brackets or adapters. That being said I'm having a one piece driveshaft made because the old Toyota half sections I've been mismatching are all old and worn out. As for engine mounts, I spaced the brackets and used AE86 mounts.

Sorry for the lack of updates, but I've had a lot of backwards progress. My house was broken into. All of my tools and 90% of the parts that weren't installed were stolen. The chassis' and engines are still there thankfully. I' hoping to have this car back together and entered in JSSC this year.
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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe aka RE86

Postby redroku87 » Mon May 06, 2013 7:26 pm

It's cool.

You mean a w58 fits right in no hammering to get that bad boy in?!?
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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe aka RE86

Postby NIXmx » Mon May 06, 2013 8:18 pm

What's cool?

And yes a W58 will fit in the tunnel, with some room to spare.
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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe aka RE86

Postby redroku87 » Mon May 06, 2013 8:33 pm

The whole darn thing-you sir are my hero.
I really love my 86, and I don't want to have to cut it to make it awesome!

I'm planning on going Puerto Rican with it and rocking the 3TC turbo carb.
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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe aka RE86

Postby NIXmx » Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:52 am

Progress!

Autometer Cobalt tachometer. Prosport Oil pressure and temp, and volt gauges.

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For a special project.

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It just looks right.

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Vertex style front bumper

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The F bodies belong to my roommate.

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Sanding and prepping the second bumper.

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Primer.

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Paint.

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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe aka RE86

Postby NIXmx » Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:04 am

Moved into my storage unit. The picture was taken after the first trip. I have a Toyota problem. :D

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A few other goodies I picked up recently.

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Also bought a 270 cam with 11mm of lift and LCE Performance dual springs with titanium retainers. I might vulture the rest of the Celica and swap over the rear end and front suspension/brakes.
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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe aka RE86

Postby Turtle » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:40 am

looks great nix. did you use the stock 22re engine brackets and drill a hole for the offset dowel on the 4ag rubber mounts? that's how i envisioned it would work. The bolt hole in the 22re engine bracket is the same size as the mounting point on the rubber mount (either M12 or M14). the only difference is that the 22re mount has a dowel in a different place than the 4a mount.

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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe aka RE86

Postby Gino1X1 » Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:46 pm

Reminds me of the 3 *E86 with these R engines in them, one even has the stock slushbox stillattached to it. That combo came out of an RX80. All 3 with sidedraughts. These engines don't have anything over 5k rpms with stock cams but with such light SR trim chassises, the cars will slide very well.

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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe aka RE86

Postby NIXmx » Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:12 pm

Turtle - I've made 5 different combinations work for the engine mounts. I haven't decide on which to keep.

Attached the side skirts. The awesome V-Fiber sides are a good inch short. They are cut for now, fiberglass work to follow in the future.

The radiator came in. I have to trim some of engine bay, but it fits nicely. The fan shroud looks great, but won't fit with the fans. The 22RE is a big girl.

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Also received my Fineline Tuning Rocket bunny style wing. The fitment is amazing! Pictures as soon as it's mounted.
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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe aka RE86

Postby chemtrails » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:53 pm

Wow this is a 1st, well to me anyways
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Re: 1986 22RE AE86 coupe aka RE86

Postby Hindi » Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:00 pm

Super sweet project!!!! I'm looking forward to more!

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