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Re: A broke college kid, and his broken rolla...

Postby Grant » Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:28 pm

Oh okay I see now. I guess you really can't compare a bent panel to a pressed panel... I suppose the Wolf Steel panel could be bent and pounded into a better shape, but I would definitely be frustrated too.

Thanks for the tips. :)

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Re: A broke college kid, and his broken rolla...

Postby EvoSolley » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:47 am

Some more slight progress. Finished epoxying the underside of the passenger fender, trunk, and also started on the drivers side fender. I Will be epoxying the backside of the drivers fender today, along with finishing the removal of the old seam sealer inside the car.

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The spots you see are where the body filler is. This was taken right after the paint was sprayed on, but blends in a lot more when its fully dried.
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Re: A broke college kid, and his broken rolla...

Postby corollafrs » Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:56 pm

very nice.

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Re: A broke college kid, and his broken rolla...

Postby EvoSolley » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:43 am

Small Update,

With the cold temperatures and the rain, progress has been sorta slow on the corolla. It was warmer this weekend so I decided to finally paint the interior. I scuffed, cleaned, and vacuumed till my arms went numb. No matter how hard I tried, I could not completely get all of the dust and debris out of the car :x I eventually said good enough and proceeded on with painting. Their was some dirt and specks of dust that got caught in the paint but i think it turned out decent. I'm happy with the outcome, and have come to the realization that anything I do won't be up to my impossible standards lol

I am still debating if I am going to actually paint the interior with color or leave it like this. I plan on installing Dynamat, so I feel painting the floor with color will be an overkill and a waste of money but IDK. I will also be re applying seam sealer before it is all said and done. Any suggestions?

On to pics 8-)

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This drivers side floor board section was time consuming. I cleaned up the rust in the drivers side floor pan as best I could. Then used a metal prep solution I had left over from an old por 15 kit. "Metal Prep" is supposed to remove any remaining rust and coat the area in a zinc phosphate coating for better adhesion. Once applied and dried, I scrubbed the area with wax and grease remove on a red scotch brite pad. I then wiped it down with a tack rag and another coat of wax and grease remover. I sprayed a duplicolor rattle can etch primer (green) just as a precaution. I let it dry, washed with wax and grease remove on a red scotch brite pad, dried, then sprayed the epoxy over it. Hopefully this will hold up and I will not run into any comparability issues. I will try the ole masking tape test when I get home. The panel was also warped and dented pretty bad from a previous accident I am guessing. I banged it out as best I could, before starting this process.
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Re: A broke college kid, and his broken rolla...

Postby EvoSolley » Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:02 am

Well, its been a while and sadly, not many updates for you all. Its been so friggin cold here lately that it takes some HUGE determination and motivation to get out of warmth and fight the cold :cry: (I know I'm a baby, suck it up and get out there!) I did however make a lot of progress on repairing a major rust spot. If anyone is on the Facebook page, you have probably already seen the repair. But for those who haven't ill do a little update. I used the the bottom portion of my crappy RH side front fender to repair the bottom LH quarter panel section (the area right in front of the LH rear wheel). Hopefully this update will help anyone needing to fix that portion of their AE86, since it seems to be a pretty common place for rust. If you can get your hands on a crappy fender, this approach/fitment is worlds better than the "Wolf Steel" route. Again, this is only my opinion.

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I did get a little warpage in the panel as you can probably see from the last picture. I should be able to bang it out without much problem and then go over it after with filler. I still have to weld the bottom of the patch but it looks a lot better than it did originally! The panel bond adhesive was used along where the clamps are, to create a solid water tight seal where the inner and outer panels meet. This stuff is STRONG. After sitting clamped overnight, I removed the clamps. In some areas where the adhesive was barely touching the clamps, the protective metal coating on the c clamps ripped off when they were removed! Anyways I have been slowly getting other things done on the car. Right now my current plan of attack is to finish the patch, strip the paint around the drivers door frame up to the door hinges, scuff up the hinge and inner fender area, spray with epoxy and then move onto the doors. After the doors, the trunk area and Right hand side of the car will be in full swing to strip and move on to epoxy. After that its filler time! and blocking, blocking, and more blocking..... Trying to get this done by the end of March, but that may be a bit of a long shot :shock:

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Re: A broke college kid, and his broken rolla...

Postby yellowsnow4free » Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:15 am

EvoSolley... wow, just wow.

I haven't browsed Club4AG for a while, and I am super impressed with your progress! :D

Great job with the welds, and awesome tip on using front fenders to repair the rear ones!

My car actually has some rust in those exact same areas, so I might be doing the same work down the line :P

Truly inspiring build! Sorry to hear about the windshield, but it seems like you've got a positive / learning outlook on the whole thing :)

Keep up the great work!!! :D

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Re: A broke college kid, and his broken rolla...

Postby JyuRoku » Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:24 pm

Awesome! Please keep going, love seeing your slow but high-quality progress! :o :mrgreen:

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Re: A broke college kid, and his broken rolla...

Postby aaronlee133 » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:05 pm

Kudos and keep up the hard (yet great) work! -Aaron

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Re: A broke college kid, and his broken rolla...

Postby EvoSolley » Wed Feb 11, 2015 7:01 am

got a couple warm days over the weekend and got some work done to the patch! It is getting there, but I still need a bit of work to look perfect. Specifically I need to work on the body line and wheel well arch (gotta get them nice, straight, and smooth) 8-)

I started by grinding down the welds a bit more.
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I then used fiberglass filler "kitty hair" over the welds to make sure I filled in any pin holes that might be in the welds.
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Next was filler work. It looks like a thick coat of filler but most of it was sanded off to a nice thin layer. I'm trying to keep filler to a minimum but has to be used in some cases.
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I worked the body line back by using a strip of tape and running a thin layer of filler over it. Removing the tape once the filler started to cure gave a nice crisp line. It was hard to see the body line on the arch when laying the tape down. Once I got it coated with some epoxy, i saw I missed it by just a bit :(
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I sprayed a coat of epoxy primer to help me see my progress with sanding and to also seal the bare metal from the elements. The patch turned out pretty good, but you can see where I missed the body line a bit. No worries though, as I will be touching that part up soonish. Also, you can see a odd looking "crock" in the flow of the rear arch. Basically it is where the patch panel meets the quarter panel at the arch. I am assuming the front fender patch I used had a curvature that is slightly less than the quarter panel wheel well arch. A little bit of massaging and filler work should smooth it out nice, but for a free patch panel, I cannot complain!
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The drivers side of the shell is all stripped and epoxy coated. Once I get the passenger side and roof stripped and coated in epoxy, I'll be going back through my work and filling in and touching up any problem areas. Then I will be spraying on some high build primer and getting into the block sanding process.... should be fun haha I also have the doors...not looking forward to those :( More updates to come...

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Re: A broke college kid, and his broken rolla...

Postby yellowsnow4free » Wed Feb 11, 2015 9:36 am

Looking good as always EvoSolley! :D

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Re: A broke college kid, and his broken rolla...

Postby EvoSolley » Wed Mar 18, 2015 8:56 am

Unfortunately, progress has slowed to a crawl, but at least something has gotten done :D With spring just around the corner and temps slowly climbing in my area, progress should really start to kick in. My initial goal of having the car done by the end of this month is probably not going to happen, so I have decided to move the "due date" to my birthday, June 8th!

I got the passenger side quarter all stripped and epoxied but still have a bunch of stuff to do before the whole car is epoxied. The rear side marker delete sanded out very nicely and I confirmed my suspicion of a replacement quarter panel being installed previously. When working on the cpillar I ran into bondo and the weld area. This area of the cpillar was warped pretty good, so I applied fiberglass filler to waterproof the weld and used filler to straighten everything out. Again the filler is not very thick but I did have to make up the difference of the warp. Once the car is completely epoxied, Ill be inspecting each area of the car once again for imperfections and straightness. Once everything is to my liking I will move onto High Build Primer and overall block sanding

Anyways on to the pics!

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More updates to come...

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Re: A broke college kid, and his broken rolla...

Postby yellowsnow4free » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:38 am

EvoSolley,

Your build thread is my favorite! The car is looking great! :D

So what's your background? I've just noticed the welding, paint, and bodywork you've been doing, and everything looks like it's coming out good!

I'm a novice at all of this stuff myself, but I feel I'm a pretty good DIY-er, so I was curious if you have any info / tips :)

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Re: A broke college kid, and his broken rolla...

Postby EvoSolley » Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:46 am

yellowsnow4free wrote:EvoSolley,

Your build thread is my favorite! The car is looking great! :D

So what's your background? I've just noticed the welding, paint, and bodywork you've been doing, and everything looks like it's coming out good!

I'm a novice at all of this stuff myself, but I feel I'm a pretty good DIY-er, so I was curious if you have any info / tips :)


Thanks for the kind words! As for my background in bodywork, I would say when I started on this project it was non-existent. I literally went from knowing nothing to what you see now, and I am still learning as I go. Bodywork and paint requires a bunch of searching, a decent amount of money if you don't have the supplies, and most importantly time and patience. I am far from an "expert" in the area, and I am sure more experienced people in the field would probably look and laugh at some of the work I have done, but never the less I am happy with the results so far. If you decide to tackle bodywork, make sure you are prepared for the time and supplies needed for something like this, as it does get kinda pricey at times. For example when I first started, I figured all I I needed to lay down paint was a paint gun and a compressor. Technically you could do that, but the proper way is to have an air cooling and water trap system set up in order to take the moisture out of the compressed air so it doesn't ruin your paint job.

Anyways, I could ramble on for ever about this stuff but when it comes down to it, I think anyone can do. I have always wanted to learn the bodywork and paint process, so it was a perfect opportunity for me to try my hand at it. Everyone I have talked to says the final result directly reflects the time and effort you put into it. So hopefully it will look awesome when its all said an done!

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Re: A broke college kid, and his broken rolla...

Postby EvoSolley » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:45 am

Got to do some work on the corolla this past week/weekend. Got the roof, passenger rocker, and passenger door frame, stripped and coated. Also scuffed and epoxied the passenger under fender area. While I was at it, I worked on getting the drivers quarter panel a little more straight. I still have to work on the drivers patch panel area and fender lip area area though. As you can see, they both need to be straightened out more. Since it was such a nice day, I decided to push her out into the sun for a bit too! :D

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Areas left to epoxy *on the body*:
- Windshield channel
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- Trunk area (scuff and spray)

After that, I will move onto the doors, hood, and wheel wells/fender lip area. Then I'll go back through everything and spot fix problem areas before spraying high build primer and blocking. Slow progress but it is getting there!

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Re: A broke college kid, and his broken rolla...

Postby morgan » Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:22 pm

getting close, I know the feeling at this point...nice weather, almost done, motivated...finish it up. looking good Brandon
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Postby EvoSolley » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:46 pm

Well.... lets just say the past couple of days have been interesting. I got the rear windshield area stripped and primed but there was a bit of a setback. First a little story.... Monday night I was chugging along, grinding down some small rust areas around where the trunk sill sits. I was just about done and WHAM!! It felt like someone came along and punched me as hard as they could in the face. My face mask flew across the garage and I went straight to the floor, I tried to piece things together for a second, then noticed blood everywhere. I grabbed my face which was completely covered in blood. The angle grinder I was using was still on spinning around the garage. I unplugged it, then ran inside.

So what happened? I was using my angle grinder with a wire brush attachment on it removing rust. The wire brush caught an edge and flung the angle grinder out of my hands, under my face mask, and across my face. Got a nasty wound on my face and my inner upper lip got F'ed! Ended up going to the ER, got a tetanus shot, antibiotics, and pain killers (at least I didn't need stitches). Worst thing about the whole ordeal was that I had all the necessary safety gear on. Just goes to show that **** HAPPENS. At least now it is officially a project I put BLOOD, Sweat and Tears into hahaha. For everyone working on a project, BE CAREFUL!! Onto the pics

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Next up is the Front windshield area! More to come...

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Re: A broke college kid, and his broken rolla...

Postby shagymc » Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:14 am

Holy **** man, I was admiring the body work and then bloody face! I cut my finger really bad a couple weeks ago with my jig and as you say **** happens. Keep up the solid work!

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Re: A broke college kid, and his broken rolla...

Postby grappletech » Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:16 pm

This is so inspiring, I know nothing about body work, or the prep that goes into it. I'm sure your Saving soooo much by having the space and the know how.

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Re: A broke college kid, and his broken rolla...

Postby Jeonsah » Sat May 02, 2015 9:45 pm

Your car is coming out great. Are you going to block down the primer with like 600 grit before paint? That'll make it the paint come out really nice with enough surface to adhere to. Also, I feel your pain about the blood, sweat, and tears. I was workin on my other car trying to get off the exhaust manifold and I smack'd myself in the face with jack handle (as a cheater bar). Gave myself a black eye and got funny looks from people at work for a week haha.
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Re: A broke college kid, and his broken rolla...

Postby Grant » Sun May 03, 2015 10:48 am

Wow, I'm looking forward to the end result. I really admire the attention to detail.

What are you doing to keep track of which bolt goes where? Labeled bags? Pictures for reference?
I got a bit nervous of mixing things up just having the interior out, so I would be really paranoid about having parts left over if I stripped the entire shell. :P

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Postby EvoSolley » Mon May 04, 2015 6:37 am

Jeonsah wrote:Your car is coming out great. Are you going to block down the primer with like 600 grit before paint? That'll make it the paint come out really nice with enough surface to adhere to. Also, I feel your pain about the blood, sweat, and tears. I was workin on my other car trying to get off the exhaust manifold and I smack'd myself in the face with jack handle (as a cheater bar). Gave myself a black eye and got funny looks from people at work for a week haha.


Ouch, that sucks but I know what you mean. The night after it happened I went to Kroger at around 3:00AM to fill my prescription. The guy working the counter turned around to face me and mumbled "OH ****......." before gaining his composure. In his defense it looked A LOT worse that night :lol: Pretty much, when people would stare or asked what happened, I would lean in, look around to see if anyone was listening then whisper, "Dont make my girlfriend angry....." :lol: :lol: :lol: Oh the reactions :lol:

Yup all of that will be take care of when the epoxy primer is all done, Hopefully the finished product will look as smooth as glass :D

Grant wrote:Wow, I'm looking forward to the end result. I really admire the attention to detail.

What are you doing to keep track of which bolt goes where? Labeled bags? Pictures for reference?
I got a bit nervous of mixing things up just having the interior out, so I would be really paranoid about having parts left over if I stripped the entire shell. :P


Thanks a lot! I am still kinda dreading re-assembly, I imagine it will be "bitter-sweet" to say the least. For the most part, I bagged and labeled all of my screws, nuts, and bolts. However I know their are some I misplaced when I got ahead of myself. We will see how confused I get when I start re-assembly. I figure I will be able to reach out to the forums for help and view diagrams online if I get lost.

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Postby EvoSolley » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:17 am

**Update Time**

So my modified due date of my birthday was a bust. I'm a bit further along but no where near being done completely. Problems and setbacks just keep popping up :( . The latest of which is the rear passenger wheel well :x :x

My idea was to scrape off all of the current undercoating from the wheel wells (what a job) then reseal, paint, and apply raptor liner for additional protection. When I finally got up under there though, I noticed the seam sealer was slightly cracked all the way along the seam. Removing the sealer along the seam uncovered more rust :x :x :x :o :o :( :( :( :( . Years and years of moisture seeping into the crack eventually started rusting the seam. The "Proper" way to remove rust from a seam is to separate the panels and either replace with good panels or to cut and weld. Unfortunately this will not happen, I do not have the proper tools of knowledge to tackle a job like that. Maybe one day but not now. My course of action is to try and grind down as much rust as possible, sandblast as much as possible, then put a nice thick coat of epoxy over it, Ideally sealing the rust (IF any is left in the seam) from the elements. Seam sealer on top of that as well as raptor liner should provide additional water proof barriers as well. When sandblasting, if any holes rust rot/holes appear, I will cut them out and weld in pieces of good metal.


Repairing rust holes will involve this sort of process:
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Postby EvoSolley » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:25 am

I guess there is a limit on how many pictures we can post now or something haha I'll try and post the rest of the message here.

On a positive note though, I am just about done rolling the inside lip of the rear fenders:
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I am also working on fabricating a rear speaker panel from scratch:
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Last but certainly not least, I finally got a hold of a minty fresh rear bumper!! 8-) 8-) This is how I in vision delivery drivers from japan deliver their parts lol :lol:

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Shout out to Steven (sc86 on the boards) for the awesome, minty fresh JDM rear kouki bumper! Now to source or fabricate some mounts for them since new ones are discontinued :( :

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More updates to come in this never ending project haha. Its almost been a year since I started the bodywork!!!

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Postby yellowsnow4free » Sun Jul 26, 2015 9:38 am

Looking good EvoSolley! :)

I know I've said this before, but this build is really inspiring, especially for a DIY-er like myself. I can't wait to see the finished product! :D

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Postby EvoSolley » Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:45 am

yellowsnow4free wrote:Looking good EvoSolley! :)

I know I've said this before, but this build is really inspiring, especially for a DIY-er like myself. I can't wait to see the finished product! :D


Thanks man, me too! I want to get this thing DONE lol

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I have been able to pull together some free time to work on the car this past week. I'm still tackling the rear fender wells and hope to have paint on them by the end of this weekend. I also decided I wanted to attempt to "fabricate" my own rear bumper brackets. So far they have turned out pretty nice and I am happy with the results. I still have to make a mount that will attach to the brackets and bolt into the frame. I am very happy to see how much my welds have improved since I started. One thing is for sure though, welding thick metal together is a hell of a lot easier than thin sheet metal!

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Granted I have an angle grinder and Mig welder on hand, i've only spent about $40 at home depot for the metal. 8-) 8-)

More updates to come!

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Postby morgan » Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:04 am

Very nice! Brackets look good, and youre so right on the thick metal, so much easier.
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Re: A broke college kid, and his broken rolla...

Postby GTS_007 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:10 am

looking good!

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Re: A broke college kid, and his broken rolla...

Postby EvoSolley » Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:56 am

**Update Time**

I have actually made some decent progress on the corolla over the past couple weeks. Although it probably won't seem like much from this post, a lot of little things that I dreaded attempting to fix has gotten done. The rear bumper brackets are about 95% finished as well. They turned out pretty decent and overall, I am pretty happy with them. I might eventually get OEM rear bumper brackets, but these home made ones should work for now.

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^^ For that last picture I still have a lot of work to do on the drivers side tail light section an the whole taillight panel. Just keep in mind this is not finished yet haha.

Other progress includes a complicated (to me) patch panel fix:
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The rear wheel wells are stripped for the most part. Some of the E-coat form the factory is still there, but I am not worried about it. Also, I couldn't get all of the original seam sealer out of some of the crevices. However once scuffed and cleaned, epoxy should lay on it just fine.
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More Updates to come 8-)

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Re: A broke college kid, and his broken rolla...

Postby EvoSolley » Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:56 pm

Real quick update since I have been slackin...

Other things have gotten done I just haven't uploaded the rest of the pics. Rear fender wells are epoxy primed and the front fender wells are totally stripped and should be in epoxy primer sometime this weekend. That leaves the Front windshield area and trunk to be epoxied. Then finally I can give the doors some much needed love. More updates to come soonish.

Drivers rear:
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Passenger rear:
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I know this update is pretty uneventful but progress is progress and posting helps keep me motivated :mrgreen: (which I need plenty of haha)

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Postby Clouds » Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:13 pm

EvoSolley wrote:I know this update is pretty uneventful but progress is progress and posting helps keep me motivated :mrgreen: (which I need plenty of haha)

Hey, updates are updates. Can't complain about progress, man. :lol:
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