OST-031: A delicate dance

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OST-031: A delicate dance

Postby oldeskewltoy » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:15 pm

A delicate dance... Image

titled as such because OST-031 and OST-030 will be built almost simultaneously.

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As you can see... OST-030 in the background, with 2 heads in front

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Clients head on the left.... anyone see an issue??


How about if we isolate the two sets of chambers.... clients head on top

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It's replacement on the bottom


See anything now??


Closer??

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I've dismantled the replacement and I've sent it on to get cleaned and pressure checked....

So with it @ the shop to get cleaned, the delicate dance proceeds Image as I move back to OST-030





More to come... :mrgreen:
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Re: OST-031: A delicate dance

Postby oldeskewltoy » Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:16 pm

oldeskewltoy wrote:
So with it @ the shop to get cleaned, the delicate dance proceeds



More to come... :D



So now that OST-030 is @ the shop getting its valve job, work on OST-031 begins.....

A slightly different angle view on the intake bowls, and chambers... a bit more vertical

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This view allows us to see the back of the bowl where it meets the valve seat.



Now when I titled this thread "A delicate dance" originally it was based on working OST-030 side by side with OST-031... BUT OST-031's title has new meaning....

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Note how close the gasket edge is to the port outlet roofs... best noticed on end ports, 4 is done, #1 on right is yet to be touched

On #4 (the one done) there was less that .010" to the edge of the gasket. Typically I have over 1/2mm (.0197") or even more!



more to come....... :mrgreen:
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Re: OST-031: A delicate dance

Postby oldeskewltoy » Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:34 am

from another forum wrote:Don't tell anyone, all gasket manufacturers are the only ones to really know the real speed secrets of every head.



I hear what I BELIEVE you are saying... I only use OEM gaskets when I work the head, because OEM tends to have more consistancy........



I've gotten a bit further since my last post.....

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and in more detail.... 2 slightly different views...


1st internally exhaust port #2's transition

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and from a slightly different POV...... #3's transition

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More to come...... :mrgreen:
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Re: OST-031: A delicate dance

Postby oldeskewltoy » Sun May 10, 2015 10:13 am

from another forum wrote:Wouldn't these "bad" heads have better pressure recovery zones?

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not disputed.... BUT.. the time required/amount of work involved makes it significantly less desirable. Also to consider is the irregularity of the "flaw"s occurance.

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chamber #1 has no "flaw"... chamber #4 has only a minor "flaw". Do I weld up chambers 1 and 4 and shape them to equal the finished chambers of 2 and 3? My typical finished head goes out the door for under $1500, some under $1000

so... to again answer your question... Yes... these heads would have better pressure recovery, but the work involved makes it less affordable/attractive.


"Pressure Recovery" - is a concept researched by Darren Morgan (Induction Research and Development expert). In essence.....
'pressure recovery' refers to efficient slowing of fluid velocity and transforming the kinetic energy into pressure. In the runner, and especially through a partially-open valve, the velocity is high and the pressure low. In the cylinder, the opposite is true. A gradual transition, as in the exit contour of a carb venturi or through a tapered-hole carb spacer, accomplishes this. Blasting a high-speed air jet into a a big, still cylinder does not.


to simplify this even more(to better visualize)... think of the valve opening inside a funnel..... :ugeek:

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Re: OST-031: A delicate dance

Postby oldeskewltoy » Wed May 13, 2015 6:43 pm

With OST-030 heading back to its owner, and OST-032 at the shop getting cleaned and pressure checked, there is a window of time to check chamber volumes on OST-031, and then re-assemble.

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This time I got 35.6 on #1, and #2, #3 was 35.3, and #4 was 35.5

Soooo... I did a little adjustment on chambers 3 and 4 and got both to 35.6

Chamber and bowls... before.... and after
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Assembly to follow......
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Re: OST-031: A delicate dance

Postby oldeskewltoy » Fri May 15, 2015 4:27 pm

from another forum wrote:If you had to guess how many hours would you say went into this one?



port work - about 30 hours : chamber deshrouding, and equalizing chamber volumes - 6 hours : waiting for the machine shop to do their thing - 2 weeks


Found another suspect retainer... swapped it out

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The head is now ready for its cams.....

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Re: OST-031: A delicate dance

Postby oldeskewltoy » Tue May 19, 2015 2:13 pm

The dance continues.... although now I'm dancing with the valve clearances...

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with 13 valves headed back to the machine shop to get tipped...
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Re: OST-031: A delicate dance

Postby oldeskewltoy » Wed May 20, 2015 11:48 am

from another forum wrote:what happened to the other three?


if you crank your neck 85 degrees to the left.... ;)

you can see intake valve #2 is currently @ .010" (spec is .008"), with a .1122" shim. This means replacing with an .1142" shim should get me to spec. The other 2 intake valve, 5 and 6, are currently @ .008" with the .1122 shim. The other 13 were significantly tighter, and if I had a full stock of thin shims (.0984" through .1024") I might just shim it... but I TRY to think of the client/next guy... and if I keep common shim types in there, when this client goes for camshafts in his future... he should still be within standard - common size shim distances.
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