DIY 4 link

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DIY 4 link

Postby marley4us » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:13 am

I found this on 86garage.com I think its the same part numbers as club4ags old one... hope so.


"Ok so after posting in the drift setup thread I went digging for all of the info on my four link. Enjoy!

You will need these parts to make the four link. I ordered them from speedway motors and mccaster-carr. I bought all of the washers and nuts from them even though they cost a little more so if you can find them for less go for it.

parts from speedwaymotors.com for the four link

2 91034158-15 Aluminum Tie Rod Sleeve, 5/8", 15" $7.95 EA

2 91034158-7 Aluminum Tie Rod Sleeve, 5/8", 7" $7.95 EA

1 1756048-LH JAM NUTS 5/8", STEEL 6/PACK $3.45 EA

1 1756048-RH JAM NUTS 5/8", STEEL 6/PACK $3.45 EA

Parts From mcmaster-carr.com

4 2458K171 CARBON-FIBER RACE BALL JOINT ROD END, 5/8"-18 RH MALE SHANK, 7400 POUND LOAD CAPACITY $13.72 EA

4 2458K172 CARBON-FIBER RACE BALL JOINT ROD END, 5/8"-18 LH MALE SHANK, 7400 POUND LOAD CAPACITY $13.72 EA

8 6381K47 ALLOY 932 (SAE 660) BRONZE SLEEVE BEARING, FOR 1/2" SHAFT DIAMETER, 5/8" OD, 3/4" LENGTH 1.24 EA

2 packs 91166A290 METRIC DIN 125 ZINC-PLATED STEEL FLAT WASHER, M12 SCREW SIZE, 13MM ID, 24MM OD, 2.3-2.7MM THICK $6.25 EA

If you build it this way the total comes to around $170 $150 without nuts and washers"
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Re: DIY 4 link

Postby KonaTrueno723 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:55 am

I'm glad you found the part #'s for this DIY Ian..great job!
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Re: DIY 4 link

Postby jromo04 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:00 am

Nice, can i please see some pics. Thanks

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Re: DIY 4 link

Postby ga_goosh » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:48 pm

jromo04 wrote:Nice, can i please see some pics. Thanks


here is the pic when i made mine. of coarse these where made with the 14 inch long sleeves and after adjusting my pinion angle i found out that the 15 inch sleeves are the correct size to use.
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Re: DIY 4 link

Postby NC Panda » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:06 pm

Yes! Thank you!

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Re: DIY 4 link

Postby LongGrain » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:08 pm

anyone of you dudes who are making these ever thought about using bushed ends on one side? Thought it would be more popular but I dont see many dudes doing it.

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Re: DIY 4 link

Postby KonaTrueno723 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:25 pm

LongGrain wrote:anyone of you dudes who are making these ever thought about using bushed ends on one side? Thought it would be more popular but I dont see many dudes doing it.


I'd like to do something like this to my DIY links. When I do get around to it, I'll post..presently working on something else on my car at the moment :?
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Re: DIY 4 link

Postby ga_goosh » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:10 pm

LongGrain wrote:anyone of you dudes who are making these ever thought about using bushed ends on one side? Thought it would be more popular but I dont see many dudes doing it.


I used bushed ends on one side. i got a set of bushed ends from speedwaymotors.com.
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I had to use 5 washers to get a tight fit.
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Re: DIY 4 link

Postby KonaTrueno723 » Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:34 pm

Excellent ga_goosh! Thats exactly what I needed for my links..thanks!
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Re: DIY 4 link

Postby ga_goosh » Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:57 am

KonaTrueno723 wrote:Excellent ga_goosh! Thats exactly what I need..thanks!

also i forgot to mention the threads are a little different. the sleeves are 5/8 x 16 and the bushed ends are 5/8 x 18. they will thread in but they are tight

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Re: DIY 4 link

Postby KonaTrueno723 » Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:55 pm

ga_goosh wrote:
KonaTrueno723 wrote:Excellent ga_goosh! Thats exactly what I need..thanks!

also i forgot to mention the threads are a little different. the sleeves are 5/8 x 16 and the bushed ends are 5/8 x 18. they will thread in but they are tight


Yeah I'll keep that in mind, making a call to them tomarrow for a set of 4..
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Re: DIY 4 link

Postby BIG WHITE » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:08 pm

so i was adding everything to my cart to purchase all the above items and i noticed the washers are in packs of 100???? how man do i need. and even then why 2 packs. 200 washers seems like overkill lol

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Re: DIY 4 link

Postby KonaTrueno723 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:19 pm

:shock: Bulk! more than what's needed..I'd just get these down at any local hardware place. i remembered using 4-6 washers (2-3 for ea side depending) per heim joint for my diy links. Hope this helps
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Re: DIY 4 link

Postby formulad11 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:49 am

I had a lot of slop and play from this setup. If someone could find metric rod ends and sleeves or get metric conversion insterts for the rod end then that would clear up any clank clank going on under accel or decel. I eneded up just tossing these and buyin a set from t3 . Which use fk rod ends

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Re: DIY 4 link

Postby ga_goosh » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:07 am

BIG WHITE wrote:so i was adding everything to my cart to purchase all the above items and i noticed the washers are in packs of 100???? how man do i need. and even then why 2 packs. 200 washers seems like overkill lol


on my set up i used 4 washers for the heim side and 3 for the bushed side. its not the best pic but you get the point. i also used some heim spacers to eliminate the use of so many washers

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Re: DIY 4 link

Postby BIG WHITE » Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:59 pm

Thanks for the replies. Im going to search around a little more to see if I can find a better solution so I wont have to use so many washers. I will post it if I find anything

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Re: DIY 4 link

Postby Clutch_Kick_Lou » Mon May 27, 2013 1:00 am

Awesome, I was going to buy T3s next month and Id rather build my own suspension any day of the week. Thanks for this, do the rods come in that goldish color? If so, even better lol

By the way, how's the difference over stock?
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Re: DIY 4 link

Postby Straitup D » Tue May 13, 2014 10:11 am

i was not able to find the 7in bars for the 4 link

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Re: DIY 4 link

Postby 3tcPower » Thu May 15, 2014 11:20 am

ga_goosh wrote:
KonaTrueno723 wrote:Excellent ga_goosh! Thats exactly what I need..thanks!

also i forgot to mention the threads are a little different. the sleeves are 5/8 x 16 and the bushed ends are 5/8 x 18. they will thread in but they are tight


So, would it be possible just to use 4 bushing ends instead of the ball joint?

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Speedway-Forged-Steel-4-Bar-Rod-Ends-5-8-18-RH-Thread,25122.html

Also, could these bushing ends be used instead of the ball joint on the DIY panhard also? Seems like its a straight forward change.

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Re: DIY 4 link

Postby 3tcPower » Thu May 15, 2014 11:22 am

Straitup D wrote:i was not able to find the 7in bars for the 4 link


http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Aluminum-Tie-Rod-Sleeve-5-8-Inch,2087.html

The option for 7" is just past 24", towards the bottom of the drop down.

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Re: DIY 4 link

Postby Straitup D » Thu May 15, 2014 11:37 am

yeah i saw that after further investigation!

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Re: DIY 4 link

Postby ga_goosh » Mon May 19, 2014 7:41 am

3tcPower wrote:
ga_goosh wrote:
KonaTrueno723 wrote:Excellent ga_goosh! Thats exactly what I need..thanks!

also i forgot to mention the threads are a little different. the sleeves are 5/8 x 16 and the bushed ends are 5/8 x 18. they will thread in but they are tight


So, would it be possible just to use 4 bushing ends instead of the ball joint?

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Speedway-Forged-Steel-4-Bar-Rod-Ends-5-8-18-RH-Thread,25122.html

Also, could these bushing ends be used instead of the ball joint on the DIY panhard also? Seems like its a straight forward change.


yes it will work and yes it can be used on the panhard bar as well. i am using these on my 4 link and have had them on for about 3 years now at least

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Re: DIY 4 link

Postby Blade » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:19 am

I have been looking into this now for a bit, and I'm mostly concerned about the 12mm to 1/2" of around the bushing. Don't you want it to fit tighter? Also, if you are using a reducer sleeve anyways, why not just get the 1/2" joints to begin with and not need to reduce it? Or even just drill it out and get 1/2" bolts?

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