Water Outlet Question

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Water Outlet Question

Postby Kitsunami » Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:40 am

Can anyone tell me why this is happening:

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I thought I had the right rear outlet from the cooling guide (https://www.rollaclub.com/board/topic/1 ... ing-guide/), but the damn thing gets in the way of the EGR pipe.

Please don't tell me to just delete the EGR. I don't have a chum in the smog business who'd overlook something like that.

My guess is this outlet might be for the MAP configuration, but that cooling guide doesn't address that.

Please help! So close!

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Re: Water Outlet Question

Postby CloudStrife » Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:49 am

God, living in cali must be so annoying lol. In Oregon, DEQ would have no idea.

That doesn't look right. I'll look at my pics of before EGR delete.

By the way, isn't rollaclub an Aussie site? To my knowledge, ADM didn't get EGR like Japan and NZ.
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Re: Water Outlet Question

Postby CloudStrife » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:08 am

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USDM outlets have a 90 degree bend for the pipe flange. Yours looks like it goes straight up, so not what you need.
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Re: Water Outlet Question

Postby Kitsunami » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:39 am

Thanks Cloud

This is lookin' like the rear outlet I'd need:

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(Pulled from the forums here http://club4ag.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7099&start=30)

Can anyone confirm?

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Re: Water Outlet Question

Postby aukword1 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:11 am

That is definitely it. Be careful with the vacuum things, they can break pretty easily when pulling the engine in and out.

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Re: Water Outlet Question

Postby Kitsunami » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:12 am

aukword1 wrote:That is definitely it. Be careful with the vacuum things, they can break pretty easily when pulling the engine in and out.


Auh man, Thank you so much!

Now I gotta track one of those down *posts to 'Wanting to Buy' section* :cry:

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Re: Water Outlet Question

Postby MisterJerk » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:23 am

you got a JDM one. those sensors are on the front water neck on USDM models.

The temptation to trade is real. Just to clean the wires up at the front of the engine. I already deleted the EGR

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Re: Water Outlet Question

Postby Kitsunami » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:45 am

MisterJerk wrote:you got a JDM one. those sensors are on the front water neck on USDM models.

The temptation to trade is real. Just to clean the wires up at the front of the engine. I already deleted the EGR


Haha, I'd totally be interested in a trade if you give into that temptation. Thanks Mr Jerk!

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Re: Water Outlet Question

Postby CloudStrife » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:45 am

Yes, 100% watch those vacuum nipples! Actually, in the pic, it's broken lol.

I'd trade mine too, but I'm finally close to driving mine. Sorry man.

You could always have someone weld two bends on the EGR pipe..

I'll buy it off ya if you find one though.
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Re: Water Outlet Question

Postby MisterJerk » Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:36 pm

Kitsunami wrote:Haha, I'd totally be interested in a trade if you give into that temptation. Thanks Mr Jerk!



My vac nipples are broken worse than the other guys. I never had them hooked up. just bypassed them and went straight from EGR, and w/e else it went to.

I was actually planning to check if the sensors in the front water thing would just screw into the rear water outlet.

Those nipple things are expensive, if you can find them. At least they were when i was thinking about replacing them and get everything to OEM stock... I have since abandoned that idea. lol

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Re: Water Outlet Question

Postby CloudStrife » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:57 pm

I always figured if you could source those Bi-metallic switch valves, they'd be REAL fun to properly torque on lol. Probably would have to use crow's feet torque extensions.
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Re: Water Outlet Question

Postby s24a » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:43 am

You generally use a deep 6-point socket with a slot for the vacuum pipes on the switch.
Kind of like the deep sockets used for O2 sensors to clear the wiring.

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Re: Water Outlet Question

Postby Jayrdee » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:37 am

Kitsunami wrote:Can anyone tell me why this is happening:

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Kind of a random question, but how long are those two bolts? Holding the plate onto the head? I have a bad coolant leak back there, and I don't think they've ever been taken off before so I'm anticipating on them snapping. They look to be the same size as the two bolts holding on the water outlet on the front of the motor (which I snapped when changing my water pump).

Side note, I still have all my EGR junk hooked up so I can snap a picture of what it all looks like if needed.
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Re: Water Outlet Question

Postby Kitsunami » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:32 pm

Jayrdee wrote:
Kitsunami wrote:Can anyone tell me why this is happening:

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Kind of a random question, but how long are those two bolts? Holding the plate onto the head? I have a bad coolant leak back there, and I don't think they've ever been taken off before so I'm anticipating on them snapping. They look to be the same size as the two bolts holding on the water outlet on the front of the motor (which I snapped when changing my water pump).

Side note, I still have all my EGR junk hooked up so I can snap a picture of what it all looks like if needed.


Hmm, I can't recall exactly. About 2 inches at most. Maybe an inch and a half. I already installed my new rear coolant neck (yay)

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Re: Water Outlet Question

Postby CloudStrife » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:14 pm

Are those new BSVs??
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Re: Water Outlet Question

Postby Kitsunami » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:32 pm

CloudStrife wrote:Are those new BSVs??


Yessir!

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Re: Water Outlet Question

Postby Jayrdee » Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:21 am

Kitsunami wrote:
Hmm, I can't recall exactly. About 2 inches at most. Maybe an inch and a half. I already installed my new rear coolant neck (yay)




Dope. That shouldn't be too bad then.

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Re: Water Outlet Question

Postby mad_86 » Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:57 pm

There is enough room to remove the bolts and rear water neck while installed in a AE86 engine bay , its even more simple if there is no egr pipe, regardless you be able to remove it .

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