AW11 MS3X 4AGE Fully Sequential Fuel and Spark build w/pics

jmaz87
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AW11 MS3X 4AGE Fully Sequential Fuel and Spark build w/pics

Postby jmaz87 » Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:12 pm

Well I don't know the details of the "New" club4ag but since I am in an active build I'm reposting so that I can get some feedback.

Long story short I have a completely built 7AG that is almost done being machined and balanced. I decided to build a MS3/MS3X w/ knock module and install it on my existing 4ag as a testbed to familiarize myself and work out any kinks. i want the break-in process to be smooth for the new motor.
that said in the last few months I built the unit and started semi-sequential to make sure everything was working. eventually I got Full sequential spark and fuel working properly and have put a few hundred miles on that setup as i fine-tune my VE. I have a decent spark map but I don't know how much to push it and i don't have knock detection setup yet (in the dark still) so its still conservative mid-range. so far very pleased with the setup for what it is.
T3 Billet Al Pulley w/ 36-1 trigger wheel
Ford Taurus V6 crank sensor
stock dizzy single tooth for cam sig
1zz coils
walbro 255
evo viii injectors w/ Al heat-sink resistors
GM CLT and IAT sensors
Innovate LC-1
EGT w/ symtech labs amp

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Tuneshttps://truck.it/p/1Dl1ejMkZq
85' AW11 MS3/X Full Sequential w/ COP (DD)
87' AW11 Spare Shell
88' FJ62 MY BABY
91' AE92 DX Gutted, caged, @15psi GRMS challenger
91' AE92 DX Spare Shell
94' AE101 7AFE Backup DD
03' CBR 954 RR FireBlade

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jmaz87
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Re: AW11 MS3X 4AGE Fully Sequential Fuel and Spark build w/p

Postby jmaz87 » Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:35 pm

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Tuneshttps://truck.it/p/1Dl1ejMkZq
85' AW11 MS3/X Full Sequential w/ COP (DD)
87' AW11 Spare Shell
88' FJ62 MY BABY
91' AE92 DX Gutted, caged, @15psi GRMS challenger
91' AE92 DX Spare Shell
94' AE101 7AFE Backup DD
03' CBR 954 RR FireBlade

jmaz87
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Re: AW11 MS3X 4AGE Fully Sequential Fuel and Spark build w/p

Postby jmaz87 » Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:23 pm

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Tuneshttps://truck.it/p/1Dl1ejMkZq
85' AW11 MS3/X Full Sequential w/ COP (DD)
87' AW11 Spare Shell
88' FJ62 MY BABY
91' AE92 DX Gutted, caged, @15psi GRMS challenger
91' AE92 DX Spare Shell
94' AE101 7AFE Backup DD
03' CBR 954 RR FireBlade

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Re: AW11 MS3X 4AGE Fully Sequential Fuel and Spark build w/p

Postby jmaz87 » Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:48 pm

Tuneshttps://truck.it/p/1Dl1ejMkZq
85' AW11 MS3/X Full Sequential w/ COP (DD)
87' AW11 Spare Shell
88' FJ62 MY BABY
91' AE92 DX Gutted, caged, @15psi GRMS challenger
91' AE92 DX Spare Shell
94' AE101 7AFE Backup DD
03' CBR 954 RR FireBlade

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Re: AW11 MS3X 4AGE Fully Sequential Fuel and Spark build w/p

Postby jmaz87 » Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:50 pm

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Tuneshttps://truck.it/p/1Dl1ejMkZq
85' AW11 MS3/X Full Sequential w/ COP (DD)
87' AW11 Spare Shell
88' FJ62 MY BABY
91' AE92 DX Gutted, caged, @15psi GRMS challenger
91' AE92 DX Spare Shell
94' AE101 7AFE Backup DD
03' CBR 954 RR FireBlade

jmaz87
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Re: AW11 MS3X 4AGE Fully Sequential Fuel and Spark build w/p

Postby jmaz87 » Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:51 pm

Well car is running great! Confirmed that cruise control is still working and i just set up my engine bay fan again. all I'm missing is a proper tach (it is super buggy) and oil pressure which just needs wiring.

My friend got creative on the lathe and made me a trick bracket for my coils ;)

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Tuneshttps://truck.it/p/1Dl1ejMkZq
85' AW11 MS3/X Full Sequential w/ COP (DD)
87' AW11 Spare Shell
88' FJ62 MY BABY
91' AE92 DX Gutted, caged, @15psi GRMS challenger
91' AE92 DX Spare Shell
94' AE101 7AFE Backup DD
03' CBR 954 RR FireBlade

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Re: AW11 MS3X 4AGE Fully Sequential Fuel and Spark build w/p

Postby jmaz87 » Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:59 pm

crank sensor pics
T3 billet Al pulley with balanced steel trigger wheel
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grabbed a spare motor i had laying around to mock up with

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Tuneshttps://truck.it/p/1Dl1ejMkZq
85' AW11 MS3/X Full Sequential w/ COP (DD)
87' AW11 Spare Shell
88' FJ62 MY BABY
91' AE92 DX Gutted, caged, @15psi GRMS challenger
91' AE92 DX Spare Shell
94' AE101 7AFE Backup DD
03' CBR 954 RR FireBlade

jmaz87
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Re: AW11 MS3X 4AGE Fully Sequential Fuel and Spark build w/p

Postby jmaz87 » Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:12 pm

Update: Still DD'ing the rig and its working perfectly withe the exception of TPS. it jumps way up just off idle and if i try to adjust past it i end up with a dip before the peak of TPSdot resulting in a decel/accel condition... EAE is impossible to use effectively until TPS works right.
its not a major issue but its frustrating none the less... I've tried 3 tps including swithcing to a mk1b tps/actuator most recently.

D-logs and tunes up to date
https://truck.it/p/1Dl1ejMkZq
Tuneshttps://truck.it/p/1Dl1ejMkZq
85' AW11 MS3/X Full Sequential w/ COP (DD)
87' AW11 Spare Shell
88' FJ62 MY BABY
91' AE92 DX Gutted, caged, @15psi GRMS challenger
91' AE92 DX Spare Shell
94' AE101 7AFE Backup DD
03' CBR 954 RR FireBlade

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Re: AW11 MS3X 4AGE Fully Sequential Fuel and Spark build w/p

Postby Davegt27 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:52 pm

very cool build

thanks
Davegt27 Code One Racing

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Re: AW11 MS3X 4AGE Fully Sequential Fuel and Spark build w/p

Postby jmaz87 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:18 am

OMG Dave you and Steve are basically my heroes that means a LOT!!!

Oh and I should add that the car is finally behaving perfectly! I have since created a MUCH more aggressive timing map as well as dialed my VE in quite well. still tweaking WUE and ASE a tiny bit but everyone i know says to leave it be :D

that said I will be squaring up with my machinist hopefully in the next week or so and should be assembling a freshly rebuilt 7A!

more pics to come
Tuneshttps://truck.it/p/1Dl1ejMkZq
85' AW11 MS3/X Full Sequential w/ COP (DD)
87' AW11 Spare Shell
88' FJ62 MY BABY
91' AE92 DX Gutted, caged, @15psi GRMS challenger
91' AE92 DX Spare Shell
94' AE101 7AFE Backup DD
03' CBR 954 RR FireBlade

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Re: AW11 MS3X 4AGE Fully Sequential Fuel and Spark build w/p

Postby KennyBoBenny » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:00 am

Great build. You on MR2OC, by chance? That car looks familiar.

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Re: AW11 MS3X 4AGE Fully Sequential Fuel and Spark build w/p

Postby jmaz87 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:34 pm

KennyBoBenny wrote:Great build. You on MR2OC, by chance? That car looks familiar.


Yessir! I started in the FWD corolla scene which doesn't exist except for a few followers on club4ag and toyotanation so I can't tell you how helpful MR2OC has been! the community is worlds above any other scene I've dealt with.

*EDIT* Currently running the latest firmware and I have 0 MS3 problems to report! it runs better and better every day!

my TPS is still slowing me down as far as dialing in the EAE but that is not a very big deal.

now if I could just find a decent trans so I can move starter to intake, I could begin building a turbo manifold.
Tuneshttps://truck.it/p/1Dl1ejMkZq
85' AW11 MS3/X Full Sequential w/ COP (DD)
87' AW11 Spare Shell
88' FJ62 MY BABY
91' AE92 DX Gutted, caged, @15psi GRMS challenger
91' AE92 DX Spare Shell
94' AE101 7AFE Backup DD
03' CBR 954 RR FireBlade

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